tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090883723146476626.post1602235006354309610..comments2023-11-03T06:35:51.218-06:00Comments on Evolution Engineered: Random Thoughts About Body WorldsJJS P.Eng.http://www.blogger.com/profile/05029579563816207022noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090883723146476626.post-44872208984559181002008-07-03T14:09:00.000-06:002008-07-03T14:09:00.000-06:00R. Busalacchi,I did enjoy my visit. You can read m...R. Busalacchi,<BR/><BR/>I did enjoy my visit. You can read more about it <A HREF="http://evolutionengineered.blogspot.com/2008/07/reflections-on-body-worlds.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.JJS P.Eng.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05029579563816207022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090883723146476626.post-55364993247712339232008-07-03T12:42:00.000-06:002008-07-03T12:42:00.000-06:00I hope you enjoyed your visit on Monday and know t...I hope you enjoyed your visit on Monday and know that the specimens you saw at Body Worlds ARE NOT those of unclaimed Chinese bodies or those of executed Chinese prisoners. <BR/><BR/>Gunther von Hagens' Body Worlds is the original anatomical exhibition of real human bodies and is the only exhibition of this kind with an established body donor program. It's success has resulted in several copycat exhibits, including the "Bodies" exhibit displayed by Premier Exhibition, which was directed by the New York Attorney General to post signs indicating that they could not verify that their bodies were obtained with donor consent. <BR/>http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2008/may/may29a_08.html<BR/><BR/>This exhibit is in no way related to Body Worlds. <BR/><BR/>This press release from the Body Worlds website addresses confusion with the copycat exhibits:<BR/>http://www.bodyworlds.com/en/media/releases_statements/releases_statements_2008.html?edit#020608<BR/><BR/>Dr. von Hagens' Body Worlds exhibitions rely exclusively on donors, people who have officially declared in their lifetime that their bodies should be used to educate the general public through <BR/>Plastination. There are over 9,200 donors to the Institute for Plastination, nearly 800 of them are Americans. These individuals have agreed to have their bodies used for educational purposes in the <BR/>Body Worlds exhibitions.<BR/><BR/>Another article you and your readers may find of interest is the Ethics Review done by the California Science Center:<BR/>http://www.koerperwelten.de/Downloads/ethics_summary.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090883723146476626.post-63380039012479212882008-06-28T02:03:00.000-06:002008-06-28T02:03:00.000-06:00They are human beings, most of whom I do not belie...They are human beings, most of whom I do not believe gave consent. <BR/><BR/>And even the ones that did give consent...umn, it doesn't make it right.<BR/><BR/>In China, you can buy a body for about $200. <BR/><BR/>Truly sick.William Wallacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04808990274355464303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090883723146476626.post-21158970470694654842008-06-27T08:14:00.000-06:002008-06-27T08:14:00.000-06:00Other related articles:Von Hagens faces investigat...Other related articles:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1126850" REL="nofollow">Von Hagens faces investigation over use of bodies without consent</A> Nov. 8, 2003<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://en.epochtimes.com/news/6-3-29/39840.html" REL="nofollow">Corpses in U.S. Human Body Exhibition Come from Dalian, China</A> Mar 29, 2006<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/Americas/May-June-08/-Bodies--Exhibit-To-Pay-Refunds-Amid-Controversy.html" REL="nofollow">'Bodies' Exhibit To Pay Refunds Amid Controversy</A> May 30, 2008<BR/><BR/>Now I'm feeling even more uneasy about this. I may need to reconsider...JJS P.Eng.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05029579563816207022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090883723146476626.post-23417034618081047162008-06-27T08:02:00.000-06:002008-06-27T08:02:00.000-06:00Thanks for the article, WW.Those are disturbing al...Thanks for the article, WW.<BR/><BR/>Those are disturbing allegations and if proven true would confirm my concerns. Actually, it would be worse. It is one thing to pay to see properly donated human bodies on display (full disclosure); it would be even worse to pay to see "black-market" bodies of (potentially) executed prisoners.<BR/><BR/>This statement from the organisers stood out in the article:<BR/><BR/><I>He said his own medical staff had seen no such evidence and that his suppliers have assured him that "these are all legitimate, unclaimed bodies that have gone through Dalian Medical University."<BR/><BR/>"If these can actually be attributed to even the people that we're doing business with, we would have to do something about that immediately," [chairman of Premier Exhibitions, Arnie] Geller said.</I><BR/><BR/>After five and a half months of investigations, I notice that no charges have been made, nor have the allegations been shown to be true.<BR/><BR/>I thank you for your encouragement and advice, WW (and I'm glad it was you who first commented), but I think I will still go.JJS P.Eng.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05029579563816207022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1090883723146476626.post-46992396012434897412008-06-27T01:14:00.000-06:002008-06-27T01:14:00.000-06:00I would encourage you not to go. See N.Y., China ...I would encourage you not to go. <BR/><BR/>See <A HREF="http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4296982&page=1" REL="nofollow">N.Y., China Investigating Black Market in Bodies</A>.William Wallacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04808990274355464303noreply@blogger.com